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All-4-One is a Grammy-winning pop and R&B vocal group known for rich harmonies, enduring love songs, and a career that has connected with audiences around the world for more than three decades. The group became one of the defining vocal acts of the 1990s through songs including “I Swear,” “I Can Love You Like That,” and “So Much in Love,” building a body of work that continues to hold a meaningful place in weddings, relationships, celebrations, and personal memories.

Represented in this Chris & Sandy Show conversation by Delious Kennedy and Jamie Jones, All-4-One’s story reaches far beyond chart success. The group’s longevity was built through friendship, compatible values, disciplined preparation, and a genuine love for singing together. Kennedy and Jones also speak candidly about the sacrifices behind the success, including years of constant touring, missed family moments, repeated rejection, and the challenge of understanding the business side of music.

Their story offers a rare combination of music history and lasting wisdom. It reveals how an unexpected song can change a career, why success must be appreciated while it is happening, and how relationships, passion, grace, and perseverance can sustain a creative journey long after the first wave of fame.

Beyond “I Swear”: All-4-One on the Dream, the Sacrifice and the Moments They Almost Missed

Grammy-winning All-4-One members Delious Kennedy and Jamie Jones reflect on an unlikely beginning, the song they never expected to define them, the hidden cost of life on the road, and why success matters most when it becomes part of someone else’s story.

There is a version of success that can be measured.

It lives in record sales, chart positions, awards, sold-out shows, passport stamps, television appearances, and songs that remain recognizable decades after their release.

By those measures, All-4-One achieved the dream.

The group’s harmonies traveled around the world. Its members stood before audiences so large they could barely understand what they were seeing. They recorded songs that became inseparable from weddings, relationships, school dances, first loves, and memories. They won a Grammy Award and became part of the defining sound of 1990s pop and R&B.

But there is another version of success that cannot be understood through numbers.

It is measured in what someone gave up to reach the stage, which family moments could not be recovered, whether the people behind the achievement remained friends, and whether they were emotionally present enough to realize that the life they had dreamed about was already happening.

When Delious Kennedy and Jamie Jones joined Chris and Sandy Benton on The Chris & Sandy Show on July 28, 2021, the conversation began with music but quickly became about something larger.

It became a story about preparation, disbelief, friendship, fatherhood, rejection, faith, mental health, legacy, and the strange experience of reaching a dream before one has learned how to live inside it.


Before the Contract, There Was the Work

For Jones, singing did not begin as a calculated career decision.

It was present almost from the beginning.

He sang in church as a small child and entered talent competitions while still very young. Music was not an interest competing with a list of other possibilities. It was the one future he consistently imagined for himself.

When other children or teenagers were enjoying ordinary weekends, Jones was often rehearsing or traveling to another competition. Friends might go to a movie or play basketball while he stayed home preparing.

His older brother was a boxer, and Jones noticed how seriously he trained before a fight. That example gave him a way to understand his own preparation. A singer hoping to win could not simply arrive and depend on talent. He had to train.

The stage would eventually become familiar, but the work began long before anyone was watching.

Kennedy’s route was different in its details but similar in its certainty. After graduating from college and moving to California, he approached the music industry with the belief that a door existed somewhere. His task was to find it.

The future members of All-4-One gradually crossed paths through talent shows, radio jingles, church, and a karaoke competition where several broke young singers were attempting to win money.

Then an opportunity appeared.

A producer and A&R representative visited Jones’s church choir rehearsal and told him that an a cappella song could become the basis for a record-label audition—if Jones could assemble the right voices.

He knew whom to call.

The future members gathered at Six Flags Magic Mountain and rehearsed throughout the park. It was an unconventional beginning for a group that would eventually sing on some of the world’s most visible stages, but it contained the essential ingredients that would define much of their career: preparation, friendship, harmony, and the willingness to act when an opportunity arrived.

They auditioned and received contracts shortly afterward.

In August 1993, the long preparation suddenly became a professional career.


When the Dream Arrives Too Quickly

Success is often presented as the moment uncertainty ends.

For Kennedy, it created a different kind of uncertainty.

All-4-One’s rise happened so rapidly that he struggled to trust it. A song succeeded. Another became enormous. The group won a Grammy. More hits, soundtracks, performances, and opportunities followed.

Instead of feeling settled, Kennedy remained emotionally braced for the entire experience to disappear.

He had seen the cautionary stories about artists who rose quickly and lost everything. As the achievements accumulated, part of him continued thinking that the group’s success was too good to be true.

Years later, his perspective had changed.

“One of my biggest regrets,” he admitted, “is that I never lived in the moment during the heyday.”

That confession may be the most important part of the interview.

It is possible to spend years trying to reach a destination and then become so consumed by the fear of losing it that one never truly arrives.

Kennedy was not saying he believed the group was undeserving. He was describing disbelief. Events were moving faster than his emotions could process them.

The songs were real. The crowds were real. The Grammy was real. But part of him remained outside the experience, watching cautiously and waiting for life to return to normal.

Looking back, he could see what anxiety had taken from him. He had reached extraordinary moments, yet he had not always allowed himself to fully experience them.

His admission carries meaning well beyond music.

Some people receive the opportunity they prayed for but remain convinced they will be exposed. Others build the family, business, platform, or life they once imagined but stay trapped in survival mode. They prepare for the next emergency, protect themselves from disappointment, and fail to recognize that today contains something they once desperately wanted.

Planning for tomorrow is necessary. Gratitude, however, can only be experienced in the present.


The Song They Did Not See Coming

Few songs are as closely connected to All-4-One as “I Swear,” but the group’s defining recording was not part of the original plan.

The debut album was already finished. The artwork had been completed. The packaging was prepared.

Then label executive Doug Morris brought the group into his office and played John Michael Montgomery’s country recording of “I Swear.”

The members believed they were being asked to offer a young listener’s opinion. They commented on the lyrics and waited to learn why they were there.

The answer surprised them: the label wanted All-4-One to record it.

The group questioned the idea. They were an R&B act. Why would they sing a country song that was already successful?

Then they were told David Foster would produce the new recording and approach it with the same transformational ambition associated with Whitney Houston’s version of “I Will Always Love You.”

That was enough to bring them back into the studio.

The timing was so late that the first copies of the album did not identify “I Swear” through the normal printed track listing. A sticker had to announce the unexpected addition.

Even after the recording was complete, the members were not certain they had captured something historic.

Advance cassettes were distributed to radio stations while the group was in Europe. Before the planned release, stations began playing the song. All-4-One received a call telling them to return to the United States because the reaction had already become extraordinary.

Jones listened again from a hotel room in London, trying to hear what listeners were hearing.

The song sounded good, but it was significantly more pop-oriented than the rest of what had been created as an R&B album. He still did not fully understand why people were responding so strongly or becoming emotional.

The listeners understood before the artists did.

“I Swear” became a reminder that some defining opportunities arrive disguised as interruptions. They do not always resemble the original plan, fit the preferred category, or immediately make sense to the people receiving them.

All-4-One could have rejected the song because it belonged to another genre. Instead, the members trusted experienced leadership enough to try something unfamiliar.

The result did not erase the group’s identity. It expanded the number of people able to hear it.


The Applause Hid the Cost

The public story of All-4-One contains the Grammy, international travel, famous collaborators, major soundtracks, and enormous audiences.

The private story contains exhaustion, distance, and absence.

Jones explained that during several of the group’s busiest years, All-4-One spent at least 300 days annually traveling. Passport pages had to be added repeatedly because the members were moving through so many countries.

There was little sleep. Family events happened without them. Relationships had to survive long stretches of separation.

After marriage and children, the stakes became more personal.

Jones remembered being in Japan near the expected births of two of his children and praying that he could make it home before they arrived. He spoke about missing some of the milestones parents expect to carry forever: first words, first steps, and first days of school.

The disclosure gives needed context to the glamour of touring.

A crowd experiences the performer for an hour. A family experiences the absence surrounding that hour.

The sacrifices did not mean the career was a mistake. Nor did Jones dismiss the joy or privilege of making music. He was acknowledging that every meaningful pursuit asks something of the person pursuing it, and not every cost can be repaired later.

People often evaluate ambition by asking whether it succeeded. A more complete question is what the success required—and whether those costs were understood while choices could still be made.

The members had spent their early years sacrificing ordinary experiences to prepare for a future in music. Once that future arrived, they learned that achievement would continue asking for sacrifices of its own.

The grind did not disappear when the dream came true. It simply changed form.


Harmony Was More Than a Sound

All-4-One’s longevity cannot be explained only by the popularity of its songs.

The group endured because its members shared more than a stage.

Kennedy and Jones described similar upbringings, comparable values, religious beliefs, and the grounding influence of military families. Most importantly, they described a real friendship.

All-4-One was not assembled by a record company from strangers selected to fit an image. The members came together through existing connections and a shared opportunity. From the first rehearsal at Six Flags Magic Mountain, they liked being around one another.

Decades later, the relationship still extended beyond performances. On days off, the members might go to a movie, walk through a mall, or find another activity to enjoy together.

That detail may seem small compared with a Grammy or a worldwide hit, but it helps explain why the group remained intact.

Professional partnerships are frequently built around complementary talent. Longevity usually requires something deeper: compatible character, shared expectations, mutual respect, and the ability to enjoy the people involved when no audience is present.

The blend listeners heard in All-4-One’s music reflected a relational harmony that existed behind it.

The members had also matured into a clearer understanding of their role as performers.

When they were younger, Jones explained, performing often centered on having fun. With age, the group became more conscious of what an audience needed.

People arrived carrying jobs, family responsibilities, stress, grief, bills, disappointments, and memories. For the length of a concert, music could offer an escape. It could reconnect listeners with another time, lift their emotions, or help them feel something they had not known how to express.

The responsibility was no longer simply to sing well.

It was to serve the room.


The Business Behind the Music

Experience also taught All-4-One what talent alone could not.

“It is the music business,” Kennedy and Jones observed. “It’s not just the music.”

Looking back, they wished they had understood the business side more thoroughly and recognized earlier that they had the right to say no.

That lesson became especially important when the conversation turned toward young performers.

The entertainment industry can reward a child with attention, authority, income, and access long before that child possesses the maturity to manage any of them.

Kennedy and Jones argued that parents must remain parents.

Even when a child becomes the star of a successful show or begins earning significant money, the family cannot allow the child to become its primary decision-maker. The child should still have responsibilities, boundaries, discipline, and permission to remain young.

Fame does not make a child an adult.

The group also recommended that families find reputable professional guidance. A real-estate attorney or personal-injury lawyer may be skilled within another field, but an aspiring entertainer needs an attorney who understands music, film, television, contracts, and the specific ways creative careers can be exploited.

The warning was direct: entertainment does not always provide meaningful barriers preventing unqualified or dishonest people from presenting themselves as executives, managers, investors, or label owners.

Parents may enter the business with no understanding of how it operates. That makes verified reputations and specialized advisers essential.

The message was not designed to frighten young artists away from their dreams. It was meant to help them reach those dreams without surrendering their rights, identity, childhood, or future.


Hearing “No” and Continuing Anyway

The Chris & Sandy Show itself became part of the conversation when Chris spoke candidly about the rejection involved in building a new media platform.

By the time of the interview, the show had completed hundreds of conversations, yet growth still required constant outreach and repeated refusals.

Kennedy and Jones understood.

Even successful people continue hearing no.

One of the interview’s most memorable ideas was that someone in the entertainment industry may hear the word “no” more often than they hear their own name.

The advice was not to pretend rejection feels good. It was to reduce the authority granted to it.

“No” is a word. It is not a permanent identity, a complete evaluation of talent, or reliable proof that the dream is over.

People see the game, Kennedy explained, but they do not see the person in the gym.

They see the guest who finally said yes but not the emails that went unanswered. They see the finished performance but not the rehearsal. They see the song on the chart but not the competitions, church practices, theme-park shows, low-paying appearances, business mistakes, or years of preparation.

This is why passion matters.

Passion is frequently described as the joyful feeling someone has when discovering a purpose. All-4-One described its more demanding role.

When life becomes difficult—and eventually every meaningful pursuit does—passion gives people a reason to stay.

The group compared a career to a marathon rather than a short race. Some people receive an opportunity quickly. Most must keep moving without knowing exactly when their progress will become visible.

Persistence keeps a person working.

Patience keeps the person from destroying the journey through impossible expectations.

Both are required.


Grace in an Age of Public Judgment

Near the end of the conversation, the interview turned toward mental health and the public pressure surrounding elite performers.

The immediate context was Simone Biles and the intense debate occurring during the 2021 Olympics, but the guests’ response reached beyond a single athlete or event.

Kennedy questioned why people who had never experienced a serious mental-health challenge were often so quick to dismiss its reality.

Jones connected the issue to his Christian faith.

People regularly demand perfection from others, he observed, while asking for grace when they themselves fall short. Public figures are expected to perform correctly, respond correctly, speak correctly, and remain emotionally stable regardless of the pressure placed upon them.

Yet the people enforcing those expectations would resist being judged by the same standard.

His answer was simple: judge others with the same measure of judgment you would want for yourself.

At the end of the day, he said, everyone is human and trying to get through life without possessing all the answers.

The conversation also acknowledged a central contradiction of greatness.

Society tells people to become exceptional. Then, once they become exceptional, it may punish them for failing to carry the expectations flawlessly.

The greater the achievement, the less permission the person appears to receive to struggle.

Kennedy and Jones rejected that standard. Strength includes understanding one’s body and mental state. Compassion requires leaving room for humanity, even when the person being judged is famous.

The lesson is especially important in an age when strangers can deliver instant cruelty from behind a screen.

Success may increase visibility. It does not decrease the need for grace.


Leaving Proof That They Were Here

When Chris asked how All-4-One wanted to be remembered, the answer did not center on awards.

Kennedy hoped the group would be known for making people happy and creating music that made them feel something.

He wanted the songs to remain part of the soundtrack of people’s lives.

Jones connected legacy to a pattern that began during his years as a military child. Because his family moved regularly, he tried to leave something behind at each school—a letter, a record, an achievement, or some evidence that he had been there.

That same desire followed him into music.

A meaningful life leaves something that says, “I was here.”

For All-4-One, “I was here” can be heard at weddings and anniversaries. It can be heard when someone plays a song that brings back a first love, a school dance, a lost relationship, or a younger version of themselves.

The music has outlived the moment in which it was recorded because listeners carried it into their own stories.

That is a form of legacy no trophy can fully measure.

Awards recognize what happened within an industry. A soundtrack to someone’s life becomes part of who that person was.



7 LESSONS WE LEARNED FROM All-4-One

The Master Prompt calls for lessons that stand apart from the feature article and help readers apply the guests’ experiences to their own lives. These reflections focus on the deeper wisdom beneath All-4-One’s career rather than simply repeating their accomplishments.


LESSON 1

Do Not Spend the Best Parts of Your Life Waiting for Them to Disappear

Delious Kennedy reached a level of success that millions of aspiring artists dream about. Songs climbed the charts. All-4-One won a Grammy. The group appeared on major soundtracks, toured internationally, and stood before enormous audiences.

Yet one of Kennedy’s greatest regrets was that he did not fully live in those moments.

The success arrived so rapidly that he struggled to believe it could last. Rather than relaxing into gratitude, part of him remained emotionally guarded. Every new achievement seemed almost like further evidence that the entire experience was too good to be true. Instead of thinking, “This is our life now,” he kept waiting for the story to reverse itself.

Years later, he could look back and recognize what fear had taken from him. He had been physically present for remarkable experiences without always being emotionally available for them.

This lesson is not limited to fame.

People often spend so long surviving uncertainty that they do not know how to feel secure when life improves. Someone may finally enter a healthy relationship but continually expect abandonment. A business owner may reach stability yet remain convinced that failure is one bad month away. A parent may spend years wishing for more time with the family, then remain distracted whenever that time arrives.

Fear frequently presents itself as preparation. It tells us that if we remain guarded, disappointment will hurt less. But guarding against future loss can become a way of refusing today’s joy.

Living in the moment does not mean ignoring responsibility or pretending that good seasons last forever. It means recognizing that impermanence is not a reason to withdraw from life. It is a reason to become more present within it.

The moment does not need to be permanent to be real.


LESSON 2

The Visible Victory Is Built in Invisible Rooms

One of the strongest ideas from the conversation was that everyone sees the game, but almost no one sees the time spent in the gym.

The public saw All-4-One’s songs, Grammy recognition, television appearances, and international tours. They did not see Jamie Jones singing in church as a small child, entering talent shows year after year, missing ordinary weekends, or rehearsing while friends were enjoying their teenage lives.

They did not see future group members practicing throughout Six Flags Magic Mountain before the audition that changed everything.

The eventual contract may have appeared sudden, but the readiness behind it was not. The opportunity moved quickly because years of preparation had already taken place.

This is how many “overnight successes” are created. The public encounters the moment when preparation finally becomes visible and mistakes that visibility for the beginning.

A writer may spend years learning how to shape sentences before one article reaches a large audience. A speaker may deliver dozens of unpaid talks before receiving a major invitation. A business may survive hundreds of quiet decisions before appearing to suddenly break through. A show may complete hundreds of interviews before the wider industry begins to recognize what has been built.

The hidden work matters because opportunity rarely pauses to teach the skills required to receive it.

When Jones was told to assemble a group for an audition, he already knew whom to call. The relationships existed. The voices had been developed. The members were willing to rehearse immediately. Preparation shortened the distance between invitation and action.

The quiet season is not necessarily wasted time. It may be the place where a person becomes capable of carrying the opportunity they are asking to receive.


LESSON 3

Passion Becomes Most Valuable After the Excitement Is Gone

People often speak about passion as if it were a permanent emotional high.

They imagine that finding the right calling will make work feel effortless. The person will wake up inspired, remain motivated, and eagerly complete every difficult task because the dream matters so much.

All-4-One offered a more realistic understanding.

Kennedy explained that everything meaningful eventually becomes hard. Passion matters because it gives people a reason to remain after the early excitement fades.

That distinction is important. Excitement helps people begin. Passion helps them endure.

The music industry included rejection, exhaustion, constant travel, business complications, missed family moments, and uncertainty. The Chris & Sandy Show faced unanswered emails, repeated refusals, and the slow work of building an audience. Neither path could be sustained only by enthusiasm.

“When it gets hard,” Kennedy explained, “you’ll stick with it if you’re passionate about it.”

Real passion does not remove difficulty. It makes the difficulty worth confronting.

This applies to far more than careers. Marriage requires passion expressed as commitment after emotion becomes complicated. Parenting requires love that remains during exhaustion. Healing requires a desire for freedom strong enough to continue when progress feels slow. Faith requires trust through seasons that do not produce immediate answers.

The important question is not merely, “What makes me excited?”

A better question is, “What matters enough that I am willing to keep showing up when it stops being exciting?”

That is where passion becomes purpose.


LESSON 4

Rejection Is an Experience, Not an Identity

The entertainment industry produces an enormous number of rejections.

Artists hear no from labels, managers, agents, venues, producers, radio programmers, promoters, casting directors, media outlets, and potential collaborators. Content creators and interviewers encounter their own version through ignored messages, declined requests, and opportunities that fail to materialize.

Kennedy summarized the reality memorably: people in the industry may hear the word “no” more often than they hear their own names.

The statement sounds discouraging until the second part of the lesson appears.

“No” is only a word.

It may describe the decision of one person at one moment. It does not automatically describe the artist’s value, the project’s potential, or the future. It can mean the timing is wrong, the budget is unavailable, the fit is imperfect, the decision-maker is distracted, or the opportunity belongs somewhere else.

The danger begins when people convert an external rejection into an internal identity.

A declined proposal becomes “I am not capable.”

An ignored email becomes “No one will ever care.”

A failed audition becomes “I do not belong here.”

Once rejection becomes identity, people often stop before reality has delivered a final answer.

This does not mean every dream must continue unchanged forever. Wisdom sometimes requires adjustment, education, or a new direction. But rejection should provide information, not ownership.

A person can hear no without becoming the no.

Persistence keeps one rejection from being mistaken for the entire story.


LESSON 5

Success Can Give You More While Quietly Taking Something Away

All-4-One’s career gave its members opportunities most artists never experience.

It also took time that could not be recovered.

During some of the group’s busiest years, the members were reportedly traveling at least 300 days annually. They needed passport pages added repeatedly because of the constant international schedule. The group reached people around the world, but reaching those people required being absent from home.

Jones spoke about missing family events and some of his children’s first steps, first words, and first days of school. He remembered being overseas near the expected births of two children and praying he would make it home in time.

Those admissions do not make ambition wrong. They make it complicated.

Our culture frequently asks whether someone achieved the goal. It asks less often what had to be sacrificed and whether that sacrifice remained aligned with the person’s deepest values.

A promotion may increase income while removing nearly every evening from family life. A growing business may create freedom in the future while consuming the present. A ministry or creative calling may serve thousands of people while the leader’s closest relationships quietly weaken.

Every meaningful path carries a cost. The problem is not that costs exist. The problem is paying them unconsciously.

Some sacrifices are necessary for a season. Others become habits that continue long after they stop being necessary. Success can become dangerous when the person begins believing that every demand must be honored simply because the opportunity appears valuable.

The lesson is not to reject the dream. It is to regularly examine what the dream is asking you to surrender.

There are accomplishments that can be pursued again.

A child’s first step cannot.


LESSON 6

Shared Values Can Hold People Together When Success Cannot

All-4-One’s longevity was not credited only to talent.

The members came from similar backgrounds, shared important beliefs, enjoyed one another’s company, and formed genuine friendships. They were not strangers placed together by a record company and instructed to manufacture chemistry.

Their relationship began around a shared opportunity, but it lasted because they liked being together.

Even decades later, Kennedy and Jones said that the members could spend days off visiting a mall, watching a movie, or finding something enjoyable to do together. Their connection did not disappear when the performance ended.

This reveals an important truth about partnerships.

A shared goal can introduce people. Shared values help them survive.

Talent may create momentum, but character determines how people handle money, pressure, criticism, attention, disappointment, and change. Two gifted people can build something impressive and still destroy it if neither trusts the other. A team can possess all the required abilities yet fail because its members do not agree about integrity, loyalty, communication, or purpose.

The right question is not simply, “Can this person help me succeed?”

It is also:

Can we disagree without destroying one another?

Will this person remain honest when money is involved?

Do we define success in compatible ways?

Will we still respect one another if the opportunity becomes larger—or smaller—than expected?

All-4-One’s name suggested unity. Its longevity demonstrated it.

The harmony audiences heard was strengthened by harmony behind the stage.


LESSON 7

Give Other People the Humanity You Expect for Yourself

The discussion about Simone Biles and mental health created one of the interview’s deepest moral lessons.

Kennedy questioned why people who had never experienced a serious mental-health challenge were so quick to dismiss its reality. Jamie Jones then spoke from his Christian faith about the double standard people often apply when judging others.

We demand perfection from public figures. We expect them to make the right decision, perform under pressure, remain emotionally strong, and satisfy everyone watching.

Yet when we ourselves struggle or make mistakes, we ask others to remember that we are human.

Jones encouraged people to judge others with the same measure of judgment they would want applied to their own lives. He reminded listeners that no one has all the answers and everyone is trying to navigate life.

Grace is easy to support as a concept. It becomes difficult when extended to someone whose decision we dislike.

Grace does not mean every action is wise or every consequence should disappear. It means remembering that the person being evaluated is larger than the visible moment.

The internet has made it easy to respond to people without encountering their humanity. Strangers become symbols, arguments, entertainment, or targets. The distance of a screen allows people to say things they would rarely say face-to-face.

All-4-One’s advice was simple: do not feed the cruelty. Ignore the trolls. Know your own mental and physical state. Leave room for people to be human.

We should not ask others to survive standards that would crush us.


THE SINGLE BIGGEST LESSON FROM THIS INTERVIEW

Do Not Reach the Dream and Miss the Life Inside It

If someone remembered only one lesson from this conversation five years from now, it should be this:

A dream can come true while the person living it remains emotionally absent.

Delious Kennedy had the success, the hit songs, the Grammy, the soundtracks, and the worldwide opportunities. Yet because everything felt temporary, he did not always allow himself to inhabit the experience.

That admission contains many of the other lessons within it.

Preparation matters because opportunities can arrive suddenly. Passion matters because the road becomes difficult. Relationships matter because success is hollow without people to share it with. Boundaries matter because achievement can take irreplaceable moments. Grace matters because every person remains human regardless of what they accomplish.

But all of those ideas eventually return to presence.

People often believe their lives will begin after the next milestone:

After the record deal.

After the promotion.

After the audience grows.

After the house is purchased.

After the children become older.

After the debt is paid.

After the difficult season ends.

Then the milestone arrives, and the mind moves immediately toward the next threat or goal.

Kennedy’s regret is a warning not to postpone participation in our own lives.

The future deserves preparation. The present deserves our attention.

TOP 5 QUOTES

QUOTE 1

“You’re going to hear the word ‘no’ more than you hear your name. You just have to remember it’s only a word.”


QUOTE 2

“Everybody sees the game, but nobody sees you in the gym.”


QUOTE 3

“One of my biggest regrets is that I never lived in the moment during the heyday.”


QUOTE 4

“When it gets hard, you’ll stick with it if you’re passionate about it.”


QUOTE 5

“At the end of the day, we’re all human. We’re all trying to get through this thing called life.”

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